Kika González: “We are not against tourist housing, but we must put order”

After more than seven years with municipal representation, Let’s win Jerez believes that the time has come to generate a new confluence of lefts facing the municipal elections. His spokesperson defends him, Angeles Gonzalezin the face of the rise of the right, and because he considers that “we are necessary.”

What balance do you make of your municipal work?

We are a fairly consolidated team and with a lot of work on the table for the small representation that we have had in this mandate. It is a legacy of the work done in the previous one, in which we have five councilors working seriously. We have earned the respect of many people in the City Council, both workers and politicians. Another thing is the result of this work, but I would say that we are a force that contributes, that pulls the cart and collaborates, and that is necessary. If we’re not on top of things, they don’t come out. The budgets, the agreed measures, if we do not sound the alert on the issue of transparency, this will not go ahead.

And what about the local government?

We have two big conflicts with them. On the one hand, we understand that there is a lack of control over public services that are outsourced, and this leads to major problems, such as the treatment of urban trees, which is a consequence of the lack of control over the company and of not giving it guidelines . It is one thing to outsource and another for companies to work as they wish. There they have lost the north. On the other, there is a lack of order in the disorder, as occurs with tourist homes. Jerez has the opportunity to regulate or order, even learn from other cities, so that some negative consequences that have occurred in other places, here we can try to alleviate them or reduce their negative effects. We are not against tourist housing, what we want is to order it in such a way that there are no negative effects in other cities. Well, no, on the part of the local government team, denialism is played and it seems to us to be careless. We have done a study on this phenomenon and it is a serious thing, because they are making a commitment to rehabilitate the historic center and to rehabit it and we see that there is a huge contradiction.

Do you fear that Jerez could reproduce the phenomenon of touristification?

The study that we commissioned comes to say that the characteristics of the phenomenon in other cities begin to occur here. We are not in a position to have negative effects in which the situation has gotten out of hand, but some characteristics are beginning to be appreciated. There is an exponential rise in tourist rental housing that indicates that this process has begun. We do not know if it will go slower or not, because there is no prevention by the City Council. Everything that is good, says the local government, but good if it is good, if it is to tease us, as has happened with the Rianal building… It is not about rejecting, but about reordering, and that tourism and people who live downtown.

Since you mention the historic center, what would you prioritize?

The priority of making the center habitable is not being worked with all the seriousness that it should be. The question of the expropriation of the lots is a very interesting tool, but if we could turn it into housing for the center to be inhabited, we would be talking about another type of policy.

In the debate on the state of the city they accused the local executive of lack of courage, in what cases?

We believe that there is an abuse of the local government to sell the fast news and at the moment of truth of that there is a small percentage. There is a tendency to sell smoke with short-term policies. It is more courageous to order the photovoltaic plants, with the PGOU tool to protect the vineyards, but there is nothing. At the time of working it there is nothing. The policies that truly transform things do not. There is a lack of courage because you have to face the big companies and you don’t defend what you have to defend. We feel very disappointed there.

Who exactly is to blame in the case of Macharnudo, the City Council or the Board?

This is the history of Spanish politics forever. Both work for the same interest. PSOE and PP. The solution goes through a moratorium. It is a common sense proposition. A phenomenon arrives that has all the logic that occurs in the province of Cádiz, but we will have to stop and see, because agriculture is vital, and marry all interests. It is not to say no, but to order it so that there are no negative effects on other interests.

What are your electoral expectations?

A year ago we decided to continue in politics, responding to our DNA of confluence, of trying to create a space where all people and political actors feel comfortable. We have talked with IU, with Podemos, Anticapitalistas and in line with other municipal platforms at the state level. And from the Andalusians we were presented with the opportunity of Verdes Equo and Más País. We have reached a collaboration agreement and feel with them to participate in a broader collaboration space, also pending what happens at the national level with Sumar. That is our intention. In a couple of months we want to announce that all of us on the left are committed to working.

They do not plan to present themselves then as Ganemos.

Our goal is to create a new confluence with other leftist parties.

Is the door closed to being a candidate?

First, hopefully we get this space, because there is progress, and within that space we will talk about the candidates and the people.

Do you think that the stage of the municipalist platforms has come to an end?

I believe that the municipalist platforms have proven to be one more part, a vision that other political actors did not cover. There is a way to do necessary, and I think we should be. We do not have vocations to dilute or dissolve ourselves. The assembly wants to continue, but facing these elections the approach is that of confluence, in accordance with the political moment.

Have they learned something from what happened with the fragmentation of the left in Andalusia?

You have to learn from what happened to learn. Things happen, we observe them and write them down.

Do not you think that all this will confuse the electorate even more?

I understand that there is a lot of confusion, a lot of disappointment too, because we have been talking about confluence for a long time and what you see are knife blows, and I understand that there is disappointment. But none of this should be an obstacle to work. We have failed, so we have to get up and try again. Until we get it, because I think it’s important, and more so at this time with the growing right.

Is bipartisanship back to stay?

I think that although there is a certain tendency, or because I like to believe it, bipartisanship is dead. That will not be what remains. And at the local level it is not the most dominant position.

What are your programmatic priorities?

In the 2022 budgets there are investment items that we are waiting to see executed. The most important is the project that we have included for the low houses, in the neighborhood of La Uva. We have also included an item to improve the conditions of the animals in the Zoo, and another to create a green axis that starts from the nursery in the Retiro park to the Clara Campoamor park. Then there is the important bet of improvements in the working conditions of Sasia, within Comujesa, which do not have a collective agreement and have very precarious salaries. In addition to our proposals at a cultural level.

How is the monitoring of the commitments of the local government going?

It is true that there are things that are executed at the budget level, but the way in which they have been executed is not what we like. School trails, for example, have a pedagogical sense of what is ultimately being done. If you only look at the accounts, they are considered executed, but we are not happy. We always see a lot of room for improvement in the way things are done.

They criticize them because they say that more than an opposition party they have become cultural managers

I think that from the right it is not understood that culture is something important and that it is something accessible to all people. They have another more elitist concept, which responds only to certain parts of the culture. Our concept of culture is accessible and universal, and I understand that you do not share it, but we are glad that you consider us good cultural managers.

How is it possible that the San Juan de Dios neighborhood has not yet been intervened?

San Juan de Dios seems to me to be a brutal priority, not only because personally anyone who passes by can see it, but because if you talk to the people from Social Action who work with the residents of that neighborhood, who are mostly users of Social Services, they are scared. Any day something very serious is going to happen in San Juan de Dios. Not only because of this urgent need, but also because one cannot speak of the progress of a country when there are spaces that are left there dead forever. When we talk about moving forward, what the hell are we talking about if not all of us moving forward. I cannot conceive of talking about moving forward leaving people out and Saint John of God is an example of that. It is not normal for the ITI, the Edusi and the Next Generation to pass and San Juan de Dios to continue there as is. Every time you propose it, they say yes to the Junta, yes to the Government… The relationship that Barcelona City Council has with the Generalitat is impressive. That should be the political management between administrations for the common good. We are going to sit down with the City Council and the Board and if we need to go to Madrid, let’s go, but it is a collaboration that does not exist. And in terms of Education, we once again ask the Board not to close any more public lines. It is due to the drop in the birth rate, but do not close nine lines of the public and one of the arranged. There is a decrease, it is public and notorious, but at least we are going to reduce it to 50%.

Do you think that citizens have demobilized, or right now there is no reason to do so?

There are undoubtedly reasons, because there is inactivity on the part of the Government in things that are important, but we have had a curious legislature to say the least, with the pandemic, which has created significant difficulties. These are complicated circumstances for what we have always maintained as a movement. There is also a certain induced demobilization, through the media right, who have tried to delegitimize the role of Podemos. And Jerez is no stranger to that. In any case, the concept of traditional mobilization, which is seeing a group of people with a banner, has also evolved, and today the forms have changed through social networks, which is where people mobilize. There is more individual than collective denunciation, people are less organized, but there are denunciations, although it reduces the power of the denunciation and the mobilization.

Kika González: “We are not against tourist housing, but we must put order”